ras
07-03 03:25 AM
Yes. That member and probably other such members are now on other site posting anti-IV posts.....
It is shameful to have such members among us.
Anyways, good thread. This site should help people fix the broken system rather than abuse each other or track all day. I hope due to the discussion, people can get some ideas and take action against such employers. IV will be willing to help as needed.
Wish discussions on this thread leads to some concrete suggestions/steps that one take to counter an abusive employer. and ofcourse IV should take steps to make these employers visible to the whole community so that others will not fall pray to them. Exposing abusive employers to the whole community is the most important thing that could thwart efforts of exploitation by such employers. This sounds some times more effective than than even going legal or to DOL.
It is shameful to have such members among us.
Anyways, good thread. This site should help people fix the broken system rather than abuse each other or track all day. I hope due to the discussion, people can get some ideas and take action against such employers. IV will be willing to help as needed.
Wish discussions on this thread leads to some concrete suggestions/steps that one take to counter an abusive employer. and ofcourse IV should take steps to make these employers visible to the whole community so that others will not fall pray to them. Exposing abusive employers to the whole community is the most important thing that could thwart efforts of exploitation by such employers. This sounds some times more effective than than even going legal or to DOL.
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test101
07-18 11:02 PM
I-140 on 6/07 & pending
I-485 arrived to NSC july-1st @10:10 pm
status unknown.
I-485 arrived to NSC july-1st @10:10 pm
status unknown.
vinayak2008
12-22 10:47 AM
Did you get back your passport? if yes.how many days it took and what is the procedure?
I have similar situation.Now it is almost a week that VFS has not received my passport from chennai consulate.
I have similar situation.Now it is almost a week that VFS has not received my passport from chennai consulate.
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ashishgour
09-17 12:59 PM
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anzerraja
07-19 07:40 PM
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman's expenses.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Remember, most people are working hard and chances are that they may get fired for jobs doing this.
SO many IV members have been risking thier jobs to work hard on these things.
So many people have taken unpaid vacations, spent valuble time on this.
Kudos to Aman, Himanshu, Jwalant, and all other folks who are helping the community.
A lot of people are free riders, they come to IV for informartion only. A lot of people do not want to do anything, just because someone else is doing it for them. I have heard excuses from people saying "Don't you have anything else to do??? You will be fired from your job, I bet you, don't get disillusioned by these folks at IV, they cant move a stone"
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Remember, most people are working hard and chances are that they may get fired for jobs doing this.
SO many IV members have been risking thier jobs to work hard on these things.
So many people have taken unpaid vacations, spent valuble time on this.
Kudos to Aman, Himanshu, Jwalant, and all other folks who are helping the community.
A lot of people are free riders, they come to IV for informartion only. A lot of people do not want to do anything, just because someone else is doing it for them. I have heard excuses from people saying "Don't you have anything else to do??? You will be fired from your job, I bet you, don't get disillusioned by these folks at IV, they cant move a stone"
rockstart
07-02 11:17 AM
Here is what I guess people are scared of
Every company has a lawyer on its payroll so they can easily start some court case to harras you. In this country you do not have much support except some close friends and may be far off relatives. So even if you know that you have done nothing wrong and have solid case the idea of hiring a lawyer and fighting a legal battle scares a lot of people. Plus every one has a job and family responsiblities and they cannot devote time to all these things. Say you are now working in New Jersey and your old employer is based in California and files a case against you there what will happen will you have to travel to california to represent in case? what will happen to your job and expenses etc. I am not sure if these are valid concerns but just thinking of this will dissuade a person to gear up for any kind of fight.
Every company has a lawyer on its payroll so they can easily start some court case to harras you. In this country you do not have much support except some close friends and may be far off relatives. So even if you know that you have done nothing wrong and have solid case the idea of hiring a lawyer and fighting a legal battle scares a lot of people. Plus every one has a job and family responsiblities and they cannot devote time to all these things. Say you are now working in New Jersey and your old employer is based in California and files a case against you there what will happen will you have to travel to california to represent in case? what will happen to your job and expenses etc. I am not sure if these are valid concerns but just thinking of this will dissuade a person to gear up for any kind of fight.
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ak27
06-16 03:09 PM
Yes a new memo was issued in 2009 (After DHS confirmed that they have worked with FBI to reduce the response time.) Now since FBI claims that 90/95% of the requests are happening within 6 months. DHS/USCIS is not allowing automatic approval of GC is FBI check was the only peice pending and was pending for more than 180 days.
I went to Infopass today, unfortunately service rep on counter was totally uncooperative. She did not tell anything other than my background check is still pending. As per my estimation, it has been pending for more than six months now. I understand that my PD is not current as of yet but, based on recent movement, I hope to have my date current in next couple of months. But, it may not help me much if BC is still pending..
Any suggestions from IV.. What can I do about it? I planning to get in touch with my attorney but, I don't think they can be of much help..
I went to Infopass today, unfortunately service rep on counter was totally uncooperative. She did not tell anything other than my background check is still pending. As per my estimation, it has been pending for more than six months now. I understand that my PD is not current as of yet but, based on recent movement, I hope to have my date current in next couple of months. But, it may not help me much if BC is still pending..
Any suggestions from IV.. What can I do about it? I planning to get in touch with my attorney but, I don't think they can be of much help..
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snathan
04-20 05:30 PM
seems like you can not resist... dont know what are you proving here..... :mad:
Why do you bother so much...?
Why do you bother so much...?
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VMH_GC
07-17 12:16 PM
I don't care when i would get the Green card. what i want is interim relief (AP and EAD). Something is better than Nothing.
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anzerraja
07-19 08:45 PM
There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman's expenses.
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Amanbhai,
Thank you so much, you got the leadeship skill, man go for it......
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=10708
Could you please pledge an amount ?
Amanbhai,
Thank you so much, you got the leadeship skill, man go for it......
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aruny5
06-14 11:56 PM
I spoke with few of my friends in Houston. I will make sure at least 10 of them call on Monday.
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sc3
08-14 01:06 AM
For those who care to read...the fact that I am suggesting that people should port their priority dates before that door closes shows that I believe that people who have played by the rules (ie actually put in the 5 yrs experience or find a job with EB2 requirements) should get preference !!
I call this the plight of EB2 india because as the rules are set up, in theory, if majority of EB3 ported priority dates, then yes, EB2 with later dates would truly get the short end of the stick.
Having said that, the backlash against people like SunnySurya is unfair. From his perspective, he is right and the law grants him the right to sue if he feels so.
THe problem in these forums is that any mature discussion is not possible because any dissenting voice is soon suppressed with ad hominem attacks such as the gentlemen who wanted to buy me tickets to india.
Seriously, how much more immature can we get?
Even reading this discussion, NOT ONE PERSON has attacked the argument on a legal basis. INsults are aplenty though.
Legal arguments were already dealt with in the other thread, there is no basis to sue, as the porting is well established law. So is the requirements for EB2.
Regarding the EB3 to EB2 shafting EB2, well, you already know that most people will not be able to port because they are not willing to change jobs, or that the company is bit too strict about playing with immigration laws.
Also, a point to be noted when you say EB3 has had the opportunity -- you too had similar opportunities. You too could have been EB3, gained experience and converted to EB2. Instead you decided that it was in your best interests to follow your dream of getting a PHD -- a choice, I dont think you are be ruing, but for the fact that you find yourself placed behind all the guys who did not do PHD.
Plight of EB2? I think not. Even with EB3-to-EB2 porting, priority dates are well ahead of EB3 (even without the current jump, EB2 was around mid 2004), and now, I guess when it returns to normal, would be around 2005. So while not exactly current (like EB1, shouldn't they be "similarly entitled" to have a superior lead times), the wait times for EB2, compared to EB3 hardly justifies it to be called "plight".
But then again, to each his own. EB3ers other EB2ers waited almost 3 years for our LCs, people with 2006PDs did not even wait 6 months for it (both EB2 and EB3) -- and worse still are people stuck in BEC (who waited 4-6 years). And yet people in 2006 complain that they have "horrendous wait times".
EB3s saw tons of people getting through substitute labor, people who have no right to cut into the line ahead of us, significant portion of these cases (including EB2 substitution) are fraught with fraud, however the law was weak, and there was nothing that we could do to prevent such things. Lawsuits are useless for us to weed out such applicants, or even question their earlier PDs because they are protected by the then current laws.
I call this the plight of EB2 india because as the rules are set up, in theory, if majority of EB3 ported priority dates, then yes, EB2 with later dates would truly get the short end of the stick.
Having said that, the backlash against people like SunnySurya is unfair. From his perspective, he is right and the law grants him the right to sue if he feels so.
THe problem in these forums is that any mature discussion is not possible because any dissenting voice is soon suppressed with ad hominem attacks such as the gentlemen who wanted to buy me tickets to india.
Seriously, how much more immature can we get?
Even reading this discussion, NOT ONE PERSON has attacked the argument on a legal basis. INsults are aplenty though.
Legal arguments were already dealt with in the other thread, there is no basis to sue, as the porting is well established law. So is the requirements for EB2.
Regarding the EB3 to EB2 shafting EB2, well, you already know that most people will not be able to port because they are not willing to change jobs, or that the company is bit too strict about playing with immigration laws.
Also, a point to be noted when you say EB3 has had the opportunity -- you too had similar opportunities. You too could have been EB3, gained experience and converted to EB2. Instead you decided that it was in your best interests to follow your dream of getting a PHD -- a choice, I dont think you are be ruing, but for the fact that you find yourself placed behind all the guys who did not do PHD.
Plight of EB2? I think not. Even with EB3-to-EB2 porting, priority dates are well ahead of EB3 (even without the current jump, EB2 was around mid 2004), and now, I guess when it returns to normal, would be around 2005. So while not exactly current (like EB1, shouldn't they be "similarly entitled" to have a superior lead times), the wait times for EB2, compared to EB3 hardly justifies it to be called "plight".
But then again, to each his own. EB3ers other EB2ers waited almost 3 years for our LCs, people with 2006PDs did not even wait 6 months for it (both EB2 and EB3) -- and worse still are people stuck in BEC (who waited 4-6 years). And yet people in 2006 complain that they have "horrendous wait times".
EB3s saw tons of people getting through substitute labor, people who have no right to cut into the line ahead of us, significant portion of these cases (including EB2 substitution) are fraught with fraud, however the law was weak, and there was nothing that we could do to prevent such things. Lawsuits are useless for us to weed out such applicants, or even question their earlier PDs because they are protected by the then current laws.
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JazzByTheBay
12-13 05:36 PM
Worth exploring...
jazz
How about we start donating services for the IV. I am ready to donate my time and use my energies to generate money for the IV. Ideas can be
1. Shampoo your car ($20)
2 Wash your car ($25)
3 Donate personal DVD's to be rented out to fellow Desis ($2)
4 Dinner and a Movie organized by state chapters. ($100)
5 Collect Cans to recycle
6 More Ideas
jazz
How about we start donating services for the IV. I am ready to donate my time and use my energies to generate money for the IV. Ideas can be
1. Shampoo your car ($20)
2 Wash your car ($25)
3 Donate personal DVD's to be rented out to fellow Desis ($2)
4 Dinner and a Movie organized by state chapters. ($100)
5 Collect Cans to recycle
6 More Ideas
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rajagopal_04
12-22 01:53 PM
My wife went for H4 visa on Dec 19. I booked flight ticket on 28th. So it seems like I need to postpone the date by at least a week.
Your comments are welcome...Thanks!!
Your comments are welcome...Thanks!!
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zoozee
12-13 12:46 PM
Yes' Paid membership for IV is definitely a good idea.
Regards.
Regards.
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chanduv23
03-12 10:44 PM
enjoying life after the GC what else??!!!
answer with complete honesty, if YOU got your green card today, would YOU ever be involved in IV again? except maybe when you want some answers during your naturalization stage?
:)
naive....naive.....
Actually some of them are still as committed as they were prior to getting GC. waldenpond still runs the organization with the same vigour. franklin and others have got their GCs but still stand as pillars for IV.
answer with complete honesty, if YOU got your green card today, would YOU ever be involved in IV again? except maybe when you want some answers during your naturalization stage?
:)
naive....naive.....
Actually some of them are still as committed as they were prior to getting GC. waldenpond still runs the organization with the same vigour. franklin and others have got their GCs but still stand as pillars for IV.
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06-12 10:29 AM
because I'm a green lover here's a greenish from me (-:
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sanju
03-11 11:38 AM
I repeat my request to admins. BAN sanju. He is a menace to this forum. I would like to ask the admins, why is there a favourable bias towards him? Anyother person would have been banned a long time ago. Look at all his previous posts.
oh ya, I remember you from the days of mumbai attack when you were supporting the terrorist and acting like their spokesperson, right?
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oh ya, I remember you from the days of mumbai attack when you were supporting the terrorist and acting like their spokesperson, right?
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gc28262
07-18 09:00 AM
Paskal, You are right - I do not understand. But mostly I cannot understand because as an organisation - you do not explain. Frankly, all I can do is register my disappointment at both your response and your attitude.While I get it that IV is actively involved in doing things over the years aimed at resolving this issue, I might feel that I could respect and maybe even understand these efforts better if IV kept its website up to date and all members who sign in updated on what's happening.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
As a new user, I would try to understand what IV stands for, What political forces IV is against and have some political wisdom before I start asking IV to disclose everything in a public forum. There are valid reasons why IV is not revealing everything in a public forum. If you are interested in resolving your own GC issues and that of others on this forum, you should not ask IV to disclose all the strategies and thoughts in a public form.
There are many IV members who are old members of IV who trusts IV core leadership blindly even though we don't know IV strategies or thought process completely. One thing many of us can assure you is that IV core works with best of our interests in mind, they are a bunch of dedicated and smart people who understand how to plan our advocacy effort wisely.
I would suggest you trust IV core leadership with their advice and directions as it is better for our own interests.
I have often seen threads on this site that have members complaining that IV is not doing anything - to which invariably the response is that one should join the donor forum. On the other hand we get newsletters from admin that ask up to tighten our belts etc. - and get more involved. Well, that cannot happen unless IV provides more updated information on what IV is actually doing, veiled references to behind the scenes activity and years of hard work are not enough to involve all those who have signed up here to become 'more involved'.
As for this discussion going nowhere I could not agree more - you see to have an open discussion or indeed debate - there must be at least 2 willing participants. And since you have already decided that you do not have time for the Qs of a mere non-paying member of this forum, I do not expect any better.
By the way, the way ahead is not to close doors, but to welcome questions and encourge those on this forum with curiosity to be more active. More often than not, I have seen that those who Q on this forum, are mocked, ignored, and treated as if they are wasting CORE's time. Sad for a forum that hopes to involve a wider audience in this issue.
Thanks!!
Raji
As a new user, I would try to understand what IV stands for, What political forces IV is against and have some political wisdom before I start asking IV to disclose everything in a public forum. There are valid reasons why IV is not revealing everything in a public forum. If you are interested in resolving your own GC issues and that of others on this forum, you should not ask IV to disclose all the strategies and thoughts in a public form.
There are many IV members who are old members of IV who trusts IV core leadership blindly even though we don't know IV strategies or thought process completely. One thing many of us can assure you is that IV core works with best of our interests in mind, they are a bunch of dedicated and smart people who understand how to plan our advocacy effort wisely.
I would suggest you trust IV core leadership with their advice and directions as it is better for our own interests.
syzygy
01-31 01:45 PM
Please read and vote cautiously as another illegal immigration related clause is at number 5
Voted twice for both the questions and also urged half a dozen colleagues to do the same.
Voted twice for both the questions and also urged half a dozen colleagues to do the same.
vivekm1309
09-25 07:24 AM
Hi Guys
I have been on IV for last 3 yrs almost & I recall my days when only way to get help on immigration was talking to the lawyers. Since I joined IV this thing defintely changed...& I feel that I am attached to a community trying to achieve a common goal and common good. IV has done a splendid job in getting the community united at the grassroots ....even some of initiators of the group have got their GCs, I still see them involved, which is a great thing. Why blame IV for the legislation failures? Blame congress for it & even 75% of Americans feel Congress is not doing their job.
Nothing is perfect in life, in market place & in the world. Also sense of purpose of service may differ for everyone & at different times. I treat myself as a consumer of services provided by IV & I have rated the services I get from IV at www.IDNTITI.com (Immigration Voice is getting a score of 8.7/10 for the services I get from it) I invite everyone to come and rate Immigration voice.
Now a brief on IDNTITI.com, We are positioned as an �Identity & Reputation management� company. You can voice your impressions on People & Companies to begin with through an innovative rating system in the marketplace � which is based on user-generated parameters/attributes and on web 2.0 principles.
We went into private-beta 10 days ago and I wish to invite you all to join www.idntiti.com and provide your valuable inputs & feedback. We are in private-beta so use the code PRIVATE (all CAPS) to register. There are currently some 80 odd companies, colleges or schools that are rated by initial users, so you can see the basic analytics piece as well. We are a fully user generated content site, so you might not see much data at this time, but nevertheless see enough data to understand the product.
The following steps will help you navigate the site easily:
Invite your community to provide feedback about you.
Search for people you know, if they are not there, you can create and rate them
Search for Schools, Colleges or Companies you know, if you don�t find them, you can create and rate them.
If you don�t find parameters you wish to rate an entity on, please create the parameter and rate the entity on it.
Connect with your community members and see their activity
As you contribute your feedback, the entity�s reputation is built and the site provides rich demographically distilled analytics back to users that can help them in researching and making their decisions easily.
For �people rating�, we are complementary to the Credit Score concept. Our identity is based on our community perception about us, similar to the fact that our credit score is based on our financial habits & capabilities.
Lastly we are listed as a group on Facebook, Linkedin and Googlegroups as IDNTITI, incase you want to join and have a focused discussion with our community members there.
I have been on IV for last 3 yrs almost & I recall my days when only way to get help on immigration was talking to the lawyers. Since I joined IV this thing defintely changed...& I feel that I am attached to a community trying to achieve a common goal and common good. IV has done a splendid job in getting the community united at the grassroots ....even some of initiators of the group have got their GCs, I still see them involved, which is a great thing. Why blame IV for the legislation failures? Blame congress for it & even 75% of Americans feel Congress is not doing their job.
Nothing is perfect in life, in market place & in the world. Also sense of purpose of service may differ for everyone & at different times. I treat myself as a consumer of services provided by IV & I have rated the services I get from IV at www.IDNTITI.com (Immigration Voice is getting a score of 8.7/10 for the services I get from it) I invite everyone to come and rate Immigration voice.
Now a brief on IDNTITI.com, We are positioned as an �Identity & Reputation management� company. You can voice your impressions on People & Companies to begin with through an innovative rating system in the marketplace � which is based on user-generated parameters/attributes and on web 2.0 principles.
We went into private-beta 10 days ago and I wish to invite you all to join www.idntiti.com and provide your valuable inputs & feedback. We are in private-beta so use the code PRIVATE (all CAPS) to register. There are currently some 80 odd companies, colleges or schools that are rated by initial users, so you can see the basic analytics piece as well. We are a fully user generated content site, so you might not see much data at this time, but nevertheless see enough data to understand the product.
The following steps will help you navigate the site easily:
Invite your community to provide feedback about you.
Search for people you know, if they are not there, you can create and rate them
Search for Schools, Colleges or Companies you know, if you don�t find them, you can create and rate them.
If you don�t find parameters you wish to rate an entity on, please create the parameter and rate the entity on it.
Connect with your community members and see their activity
As you contribute your feedback, the entity�s reputation is built and the site provides rich demographically distilled analytics back to users that can help them in researching and making their decisions easily.
For �people rating�, we are complementary to the Credit Score concept. Our identity is based on our community perception about us, similar to the fact that our credit score is based on our financial habits & capabilities.
Lastly we are listed as a group on Facebook, Linkedin and Googlegroups as IDNTITI, incase you want to join and have a focused discussion with our community members there.