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  • rheoretro
    11-13 02:46 PM
    - First, it is highly unlikely that Hastert will ever, ever support CIR. That itself is a "red flag" from a post by "Red card."

    - Actions speak louder than words. If Murtha becomes the majority leader in house than Democrat agenda for 2008 presidential agenda will be Iraq not immigration. That doesn't mean no immigration reform, just not in the "lame-duck" session.

    - Lets wait for next year for any progress on immigration.

    GCS999 - excellent points! I asked someone yesterday why they even care about Hastert. He's toast, anyway.There's a very revealing article in the Washington Post today, which says that the Dems will tread cautiously, and perhaps even slowly, on immigration. And they have bigger fish to fry, the number one being Iraq. Not sure what the needless hullabaloo about the lame duck session is. People need to stop crying wolf.

    Democrats May Proceed With Caution on Immigration
    Explosive Issue Not A Top Priority For Incoming Leaders

    By Darryl Fears and Spencer S. Hsu
    Washington Post Staff Writers
    Monday, November 13, 2006; A03

    When election results started rolling in Tuesday, Cecilia Mu�oz said that she and other immigration advocates were "holding our breath." One by one, Republicans who had fought tooth and nail for stricter immigration laws fell, turning control of Congress over to the Democrats.

    By morning, a 700-mile Mexican border fence passed by Republicans in a pre-election gambit had fallen flat with voters. A sharply worded GOP bill that targeted illegal immigrants and spurred marches by millions of Latinos in the spring appeared likely to fade into memory.

    "I think this is the best environment we've had on the issue in quite some time," said Cassandra Q. Butts, a senior vice president for the pro-immigration Center for American Progress.

    But when it comes to immigration, things are never easy. In the days after the election, Democratic leaders surprised pro-immigration groups by not including the issue on their list of immediate priorities. Experts said the issue is so complicated, so sensitive and so explosive that it could easily blow up in the Democrats' faces and give control of Congress back to Republicans in the next election two years from now. And a number of Democrats who took a hard line on illegal immigration were also elected to Congress.

    "It's not without its challenges, for sure," said Jeanne Butterfield, executive director of the American Immigration Lawyers Association. "You've got opposition in both parties. You still have restrictionists in the Republican Party. You have Democrats who've been reluctant to move on any kind of worker program."

    Butterfield predicted that lobbyists and Democrats have less than a year to move legislation that could put some 12 million illegal immigrants on a path to legal residency, before the looming 2008 elections make a deal politically impossible. And analysts say the fate of President Bush's proposal to create a temporary worker program for 200,000 immigrants is in doubt, with labor's allies in charge.

    In recent days, advocates have been burning up the phone lines talking to one another and to try to determine whom House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), the presumed speaker of the next Congress, will appoint to key committees, and how the new Democratically controlled Congress will approach the issue.

    Major challenges lay ahead. The Mexican border remains a sieve where an estimated 100,000 immigrants sneak into the country every year. Conservatives in the House, and some Democrats, want the border sealed with manpower, fencing and technological gadgets before they will even consider guest workers.

    Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which opposes increased immigration, said Democrats should implement an enforcement program first. Anything else might be political suicide.

    "The Democrats need to get their majority reelected in the next two years," Krikorian said. "My sense is that the Democrats have grown up enough to know they can't get reelected trying to get everything they want."

    Immigration experts are on the lookout for the kind of compromises that led to the flawed immigration reform laws of 1986 and 1996. In those years, a White House and Congress split between the two parties passed watered-down laws requiring employers to check the legal status of new hires to satisfy businesses and immigration advocates. They also failed to give enforcement agencies the money, staff, technology or practical ability to do the job.

    The miscues paved the way for an explosion of illegal immigration.

    "The question is, will this just be another split-the-baby approach, such as we saw in 1986," said Robert Bonner, commissioner of U.S. Customs and Border Protection from 2003 to 2005, "or are we actually going to do something that is going to seriously achieve the objectives of controlling the border?"

    At the White House Friday, the Bush administration struck a bipartisan chord, trumpeting both border enforcement and a guest worker initiative. "The President believes a temporary guest worker program, where you will know if you're in or you're out, is going to relieve pressure on the border and also reduce the incentive for people to travel from Central America through Mexico in search of such jobs," said White House spokesman Tony Snow.

    Bush supports a proposal by Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.) and Edward M. Kennedy (D-Mass.) to allow foreign nationals currently outside the country to work in the United States temporarily. Illegal immigrants now in the country could work too, but only if they pay a $2,000 penalty for breaking the law, pay back taxes, undergo a criminal check, learn English, take civics lessons, go to the back of the employment line and then work six years with no legal problems.

    The McCain-Kennedy bill would also strengthen the border and create a computerized system to check the legal status of workers. The Senate bill would authorize spending $400 million to expand a pilot program used by 5,000 employers to cover new hires by more than 8 million U.S. companies within 18 months.

    But some experts are skeptical. The non-partisan Migration Policy Institute has said that the pilot system is flawed, will take at least three years to implement, and will fail unless it is made much more accurate. The MPI panel, co-chaired by former congressman Lee H. Hamilton (D-Ind.) and former senator Spencer Abraham (R-Mich.) also said other steps are needed, such as producing tamper-proof Social Security or other employment ID card based on fingerprints or other unique identifying features.

    Others say thousands of immigration investigators are needed to verify legal workers and track down those who remain in the country illegally.

    James W. Ziglar, former commissioner of the Immigration and Naturalization Service, said if Congress does take up an overhaul, "the recognition that enforcement has to be of equal stature is something that will occur this time, because the lessons learned from the 1986 act are still burning very brightly in the minds of people on both sides of the debate."

    Mu�oz, a vice president at the National Council of La Raza, the nation's largest Latino civil rights group, said Democrats should move carefully ahead with a plan that satisfies both sides.

    "This notion that it's dangerous to vote to support comprehensive immigration reform I believe to be false," she said. In Arizona, she said, voters rejected anti-immigration Republicans Randy Graf and Rep. J.D. Hayworth.

    But, to show how complicated the issue is, Arizona voters also approved three referenda to make life tougher for illegal immigrants.

    Anti-immigration Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.), who was distraught after the election, believing a guest worker program was inevitable under the Democrats, now says he's changed his mind.

    "It seemed to me that it was not going to be as easy for them as I had anticipated or feared," Tancredo said. "They're not putting it out there as their number one, out-of-the-box issue."

    The more he thought about the issue, the more cloudy the future seemed.

    "I don't know," he said. A temporary guest worker program "could certainly happen. I may be just skipping past the graveyard."





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  • immi_twinges
    07-17 03:09 PM
    I agree with you immi...I would love to have that but i believe its not practical...coz as per existing laws there are 140k employement visas alloted per year...if you are gonna use uncaptured visas from the previous years then this number would be >140k.. which would require a change in the law...with the current govt in power (inspite of the President being pro immigration),Iraq war,elections,Anti immigration sentiments before elections,etc..i donot foresee it happeneing anytime soon... my $0.02

    First they Ignore us,
    Then they laugh at us,
    Then they fight us,
    Then we win.

    - MK Gandhi

    Have faith ... never loose hope with out trying
    We should never come to conclusions before trying.
    I saw in other thread that president is signing a petition related to backlogged passport application...well that is going on smoothly with out any hurdle..
    Dream act is introduced with out any hurdle.
    May be its the right time .They are unsuccessful with the illegal immigration (amnesty bill) .... If we try legal immigration issues now... may be they will be okay .... I dont think there will much opposition for legal immigration as there was for illegal immigration

    We are not asking for increase in number...we are asking for the numbers we lost due to the USCIS laziness.
    I think we can ask for it...Its not our mistake...its USCIS mistake

    I don't think even citizens will oppose it...we have been waiting so long...they will understand...
    I think its the right time ... my boss was saying that he heard how many visa numbers were wasted on Public radio and he was very sympathetic.

    May be they will not agree on increasing the GC numbers or taking dependents out of the GC count but i am sure they will be okay recapturing the lost numbers

    May be not all one time...at least in installments ...heheh this can work too

    Lets try guys...we had such a big publicity and very good response recently...dont let it go it waste..lets put a little more effort





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  • snathan
    04-26 03:13 PM
    http://www.businessweek.com/bwdaily/dnflash/content/apr2009/db20090423_219068.htm

    But advocates for skilled immigrants�many of whom remain stuck for years on H-1Bs waiting in the long queue for permanent residency�worry that the bill is a political maneuver rather than an earnest effort at reform. Aman Kapoor, president of the skilled immigrant advocate group Immigration Voice, says that a more effective bill would ensure H-1B visa workers are on a level playing field with U.S. workers. "Skilled immigrants on H-1Bs don't get the same rights and protections as everyone else," says Kapoor. "So wouldn't the solution be to empower and enable the skilled immigrants on H-1Bs such that�skilled immigrants on H-1s have adequate protections so that no one can take advantage of [them]? But no one wants to talk about protections for skilled immigrants."

    I posted my commnets on thiss....did you.





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  • sukant71
    02-12 09:15 PM
    We should send at least 100 emails via change.gov to Mr. Obama's team on Legal Immigration.

    http://change.gov/page/s/immigration

    Please urge new administration to support three bills by Joe Lofgren: HR 5882, HR 5921 & HR 6039 . This will be very helpful.


    1. log on to change.gov, create your profile (use a legal email addresss)

    2. go to http://change.gov/page/content/openf...tions20081229/

    input "legal immigration" and hit search questions and vote for all legal immigration questions

    3. You can also post your own question

    Why to change gov
    Why not to force to declare clarance date e.g. by today Since Dec2001 not a single file is pending.



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  • vnsriv
    03-13 11:26 AM
    it doesnt hurt to believe, you are 9 months away...:-)

    As the guy who posted it said, this is a normal process....Consulates will know 3 to 4 days before...

    That is correct, 9 months and then I will return to my country for good.
    I am waiting for the day when we get the GC , we will tear it into pieces and throw in front of consulate.

    Cheers





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  • singhsa3
    12-13 01:51 PM
    Bravo!, Well Said!
    Do you know the history of NPR? Do you know how it is funded or how it operates?

    Here's some information:
    NPR supports its operations through a combination of membership dues and programming fees from over 860 independent radio stations (http://www.npr.org/stations/), sponsorship (http://www.npr.org/about/place/corpsupport/) from private foundations and corporations, and revenue from the sales (http://www.npr.org/transcripts/) of transcripts, books, CDs, and merchandise. A very small percentage -- between one percent to two percent of NPR's annual budget -- comes from competitive grants sought by NPR from federally funded organizations, such as the Corporation for Public Broadcasting (http://www.cpb.org/), National Science Foundation (http://www.nsf.gov/) and the National Endowment for the Arts (http://www.nea.gov/).

    http://www.npr.org/about/privatesupport.html

    On average, public radio stations (including NPR Member stations) receive the largest percentage of their revenue (34%) from listener support, 24% from corporate underwriting and foundations, and 13% from CPB allocations.*

    Also note:
    NPR sponsors receive on-air acknowledgement for their financial support via ten second announcements that are broadcast during NPR programs. Online sponsorship is also available.

    http://www.npr.org/about/place/corpsupport/

    (In other words, the on-air acknowledgements boil down to advertising.. ).

    Now let's take a step back and determine how most "professional organizations" like IEEE, AILA, and myriad other "associations" function...

    Does it make more sense now?

    Physicians have physicians' associations/bodies/organizations.
    Engineers have their own. So do pilots, nurses, actors, screen writers, photographers, sales professionals, etc.

    If we pride ourselves as an organization of high-skilled professionals, why not look at it as such and operate as such??? (Those who do not currently contribute may also be motivated to participate, even if just for the tangible benefits... )

    jazz



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  • add78
    08-20 12:48 PM
    Here are the answers -

    To begin with first, there are two different things
    1) Document that determines your STATUS IN USA - Your CURRENT I-94 and what it says (stamp/handwritten valid status with valid until date)
    2) Document that determines your EMPLOYMENT ELIGIBILITY IN USA - Your H1-B I797 with Employer Name and valid until date OR Your H1-B Visa Stamp with Employer Name and valid until date (OR your L1 visa with employer name and valid until date or F-1 visa with CPT/OPT) OR Your EAD card (any employer) OR Your Green Card (any employer) OR Your USA Passport (holy grail).

    You have H1-B I-797, You may have H1-B Stamp, Your I-94 says H1-B, Therefore Your Status is H-1B, Your Work Authorization Document is H1-B.

    You file 485, You file for AP and EAD, You get AP and EAD, You haven't used either yet.

    You exit USA, You return to USA using AP.

    Your I-94 now says "Parolee", Your status now in USA is "Parolee/Pending AOS"

    Your Work Authorization for SAME (continuing) employer is H1-B
    A.K.A. NO NEED to use EAD.

    There is NO SUCH THING as H1-B Transfer
    Every H1-B filing is a new one, USCIS checks if
    1) You have valid remaining 6 year period at the time this new H1-B that they have received AND
    2) You have been counted against the H1-B before in the last 6 years or not.

    So now after I-94 says "Parolee/Pending AOS", You CAN
    A) Extend your H1-B with the SAME EMPLOYER provided you have time left in your 6 year window
    OR
    B) File a new H1-B with a DIFFERENT EMPLOYER provided you have time left in your 6 year window AND you are counted in the cap
    OR
    C) Move to this DIFFERENT EMPLOYER WITHOUT filing H1-B by using your EAD.

    in scenario A) your status CHANGES from "Parolee/WaitingAOS" to H1-B with SAME EMPLOYER once you receive your new I-797 that has I-94 at the bottom, you keep working on current H1-B that is being extended
    in scenario B) your status CHANGES from "Parolee/WaitingAOS" to H1-B with DIFFERENT EMPLOYER once you receive your new I-797 that has I-94 at the bottom, you start working on new H1-B receipt notice until that gets approved and then on the new approved H1-B
    in scenario C) your status STAYS "Parolee/WaitingAOS", you start working on your EAD which is NOT tied to any employer.

    Many people FEAR that they should CLING ON TO H1-B "just in case" 485 is denied. Well that fear is not well placed since if your 485 is denied at any point in either scenario A) or B) even though you may remain "IN STATUS" you probably have run out of 6 year clock by then. Conversely, in scenario C) in case of 485 denial, even though you may temporarily become "OUT OF STATUS" you can immediately file H1-B with the working or a different employer to get back "IN STATUS" if your clock has not expired by then.

    between scenarios B) and C), scenario C) is simpler and easier as long as the job is same/similar if you are using AC-21.

    Hope This Helps.





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  • anzerraja
    07-19 07:38 PM
    There is a funding drive in this other thread towards reimbursing Aman's expenses.

    http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/sh...874#post125874


    Could you please pledge an amount ?




    What is obvious is either you have been sleeping all thru or you are new to IV. Aman has made atleast 25-30 trips to DC in last18-20 months



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  • lacrossegc
    12-02 02:00 AM
    pansworld,
    Its not IV I am worried about ... I trust them completely.
    Its the the big bad wolves out there :) .... they might use such info to their advantage ....(call me paranoid)
    I believe, the best and safest way to disseminate such important information is through state chapters. I know what you are getting at when suggesting that we should be open about our needs and goals .... The strategic vision is pretty much laid out by the core and is clear enough for the general public (I think) ...
    monetary needs... thats a different ball game ...





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  • seahawks
    11-03 10:33 AM
    Here we go again.
    Jees, stop posting this over and over man.

    Why not, we need all of you to be active state chapter members. If you are then this is not for you, but if you haven't already, then join and make a difference. We can have interesting discussions and there is absolutely no problem with it, but we also want members to further IV goals. As the model followed is an all volunteer model, all of us know, volunteering does not come as given for everyone. Some need to be inspired, so need to be pushed, if we did not have people who did this, IV would not be existent. Try to understand why people ask everyone to join state chapters. I will stop lecturing now, but yes, threads need to be hijacked to get the point across. Without grass roots organization we will not make any progress and will defeat the whole purpose of having an organization being build from the ground up.
    Thanks and appreciate your understanding. We want everyone to be involved, we must be able to use all means to get the point across which could mean making a point in different threads too.



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  • sobers
    02-20 12:23 PM
    Friends,

    I'm starting a new thread where I'll post research and stats that lend more credibility and/or support skilled, legal immigration. This should also be added to our presentation material for lawmakers!

    Thanks!

    -----------

    Starting off, here is a recent study by the influential Kauffman Foundation which clearly backs the rationale for expanding skilled, legal immigration...


    http://www.kauffman.org/news.cfm?itemID=678
    New Kauffman Foundation Study Identifies Key Factors Driving Offshoring of Corporate R&D

    Contacts:
    Wendy Guillies, Kauffman Foundation, 816-932-1046, wguillies@kauffman.org
    Tom Phillips, Communication Partners, 212-935-4655, comptwp@aol.com

    KANSAS CITY, MO, February 16, 2006 - Contrary to popular belief, it is intellectual capital and university collaboration, not just lower costs, that primarily attract companies to locate R&D activities in locations away from their home country, according to a new study sponsored by the Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation. The study of more than 200 multinational companies across 15 industries, mostly headquartered in the United States and Western Europe, finds that emerging countries such as China and India will continue to be major beneficiaries of R&D expansion over the next three years as companies seek new market opportunities, access to top scientists and engineers, and collaborative research relationships with leading universities.

    The study was released at a meeting of the Government-University-Industry Research Roundtable (GUIRR) of the National Academies. It was conducted by Marie Thursby, Ph.D., Professor of Strategic Management, Georgia Tech College of Management, and Jerry Thursby, Chair of the Department of Economics, Emory University, with sponsorship by the Kauffman Foundation.

    Designed to identify and rank the importance of different factors feeding into the corporate decision-making process as to where to locate R&D facilities, the study also tracked R&D work coming into the United States from abroad, as well as R&D work going in the reverse direction; addressed favored countries for locating R&D work and why; and outlined trends industry expects for R&D expansion in the future.

    Among the top factors going into new R&D siting decisions in both developed and emerging countries are market growth potential, quality of R&D talent, collaboration with universities and IP protection. How these factors influence the decision, however, depend on whether the site is in a developed or emerging country. In neither emerging nor developed countries was cost consideration the most important factor, which runs contrary to what has been reported by the media (according to an analysis of media coverage over the past few years in The Wall Street Journal and New York Times on multinational R&D locations).

    Among the study's more surprising findings, according to the researchers, was the role university collaboration plays in the decision-making process for locating R&D facilities. In fact, collaboration with universities was particularly prevalent as a factor for expanding to emerging countries, even though these countries provide lesser degrees of IP protection.

    "The study underscores the critical role universities play in a country's national innovation system, not just in the training of new scientists and access to the best talent, but in the ease of developing and licensing technology," said Carl Schramm, president and CEO of the Kauffman Foundation.

    More than half of the corporate respondents who identify the United States as their home country report that they have either recently expanded or planned to locate R&D facilities in China and India vs. other developed countries. Of 63 Western European companies responding, 13 plan on expanding or locating new R&D facilities to the United States. The issue of collaborative research between universities and corporations has been a growing concern within the United States, with some observers saying legal wrangling over intellectual property rights is not only slowing the pace of innovation but also prompting companies to seek university research partners in other countries.

    The study indicates, however, that while the trend toward R&D offshoring to Asia will continue despite concerns over IP protection, companies are keeping their most cutting-edge research in developed countries where IP protection is the strongest. According to the study, only 22 percent of the R&D effort in emerging countries is for new science.

    "The United States would seem to have a comparative advantage in maintaining its innovative leadership through the high caliber of its scientists and its strong protection of IP," said Lesa Mitchell, vice president of Advancing Innovation at the Kauffman Foundation. "Industry and universities must be alert to removing obstacles to joint research, or emerging countries will overtake us in innovation breakthroughs, and the burst of discovery that has been driving our economy for the past half-century will be over."

    Another public policy implication of the findings, say the researches, is that the United States must focus on highly skilled worker immigration.

    "We are educating the best and the brightest, but make it impossible for them to stay in America and immigrate. We need major immigration reform that welcomes, instead of pushes out, highly skilled workers," said Dr. Marie Thursby.

    The Ewing Marion Kauffman Foundation of Kansas City is a private, nonpartisan foundation that works with partners to advance entrepreneurship in America and improve the education of children and youth. The Kauffman Foundation was established in the mid-1960s by the late entrepreneur and philanthropist Ewing Marion





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  • smartboy75
    09-30 03:06 PM
    Hi Smartboy75 & Wawa, I also received the same update on Sep 28th ,I am in pending h1b transfer and uscis tried to reopen my previous approved h1b .

    I am June filer and got all the receipts. Please keep me posted as well.

    Appreciate your inputs.
    Hey prince ...

    just like my case...H1 transfer pending and case reopened on previous approved H1b....I would request everybody to keep an eye on all your H1 approvals, past and present, so that in case you guys have the same issue ..you can quickly search this tread for feedback....



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  • mmanurker
    08-11 11:52 AM
    Done...

    EB3-I - PD: Dec'2003





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  • english_august
    07-11 06:36 PM
    I think you guys are organizing a watershed event for skilled, legal immigrants - I wish you great success.

    I cannot emphasize the importance of alerting media to this. Media attention is not at its best over the weekend so you will have to work extra hard to make sure that you get good media coverage. I hope that someone is working on creating a press release for the event.

    While we were creating the press release for the flower campaign, we were given the following advice by a friendly journalist

    Make sure that you have a catchy slogan and title for your press release and the event
    Don't let your press release be a big mass of text. Break it down into What, Where, When and Why (refer to flower campaign PR if you need to)
    In the media contact, absolutely have at least one contact with cell phone number and name. It is important that journalists can all and talk to a person if needed
    Also have a post event press conferenceAll the best guys.



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  • mirage
    03-10 05:01 PM
    74K EB-3 applications and 70K EB-2 application you are saying it is too good to be true ?? With 3300 Green Card numbers in each category, you are looking at 22 Years for EB3 and about 17 years wait for EB-2. Also probaly you did not download the file, It is from Sen. John Kyle of AZ.

    In my view, it is too good to be true. But we have no way to challenge the numbers either. But it is 50% of the entire EB pending cases. Is this document authentic?? I don't see the logo on the letterhead??





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  • mhathi
    05-23 03:19 PM
    Agree with original post.

    Numbers USA people are angry right wing citizens.

    Calls from legal aliens who can't vote won't move lawmakers one bit. Money and votes are the only 2 things that matter to politicians.

    Pressure groups and lobbyists have far more reach and influence. IV as a group can use lobbyists and other influence to get a lot more done. Individual phone calls are a waste.

    DBCD

    So you think its just coincidence that two of the lawmakers from Congressional Hispanic Caucus have decided to cosponsor the three lofgren bills at the same time that 200 of us have called? Despite the fact that the CHC has gone on record saying they will not support legal immigration reform unless it also has amnesty provisions, and the three bills are solely for legal immigration ?



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  • vga_1977
    04-15 05:23 PM
    Hi hur11

    Please let me know which category you have applied EB2/ EB3. Below is my qualification

    Degree : B.Com ( 3 years)
    PG : M.C.A (IGNOU - 3 Years)
    Experience - 8 Years in India and 3 years in USA with different employer.

    Thanks in Advance

    -vga





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  • akred
    10-11 11:03 PM
    Nice link. When I looked at list of banks I realised that the 10% is about domestic deposits. How am I eligible for this? How can deposit and get the money back over time?

    You open a resident account in a bank and file an Indian tax return for the earnings. If you need money outside India, you can remit $200,000 per person every year (i.e. $400,000 for a couple), which is a large enough limit for most circumstances.

    http://www.rbi.org.in/SCRIPTs/BS_PressReleaseDisplay.aspx?prid=17068





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  • conchshell
    06-05 01:04 PM
    and left messages ... lets see where this takes us ...





    akhilmahajan
    03-13 02:28 PM
    IV Core is the best and selfless. They started something, which is going to help everyone in the long run.

    I am a memeber of state chapter and very much believe in this concept. Its all about sharing information and thats what the whole idea is about state chapters.

    The information flows from top to bottom. There are a lot of things which go in the background which you and me are not aware of, but only the people who are working on it and in our case it is the IV Core. Over the period of time they have encoraged people to come forward and take up the cause. A lot of selfless people have come forward and started helping them out in one way or the other.

    What the Core has started is a revolution and it is picking up and a lot more people need to educate themself and join the cause.

    If someone does not understand or does not have any motivation, then one can only try to make them understand and motivate and hope for the best.

    I dont think IV has ever stopped anyone from saying what they want to, but there is a limit to everything. We are educated immigrants so we all need to act like one. If we dont agree on things we need to come forward and discuss them, instead of starting to criticize.
    If you dont share your thoughts then how do you expect people to understand and resolve those issues. So, i will request everyone to come forward with an open mind.

    GO IV GO. TOGETHER WE CAN

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    ItIsNotFunny
    11-04 04:11 PM
    That is the million dollar question :) and I wish we knew the answer

    Its sampling... whatever the % would be. Seems like still there is a good % EB3 I waiting before 2002.